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Worthy Martin on Community Design

9:25

Worthy Martin put up post relating to project as a whole, Atlas, and thoughts on community design

9:25

Now he'll walk us through that

9:26

Worthy Martin: Wanted to give a history of that-- some people talking about the Atlas, big word on the tag cloud; remember the Atlas came from something called a Roadmap. There was a "wedding cake" that didn't go over well, workshop 2 was scholarly narratives, workshop 3 was recipes, and this is a whole spectrum of a different levels of description for "requirements analysis"

9:26

How do we provide requirements analysis?

9:27

"Waterfall model"

9:27

Phrase "community design" in original proposal

9:27

Community involved in the whole DESIGN, not just requirements analysis

9:27

Bamboo team (CJK, DAG, everyone) have to be commended on pulling off a community effort

9:28

Community design - what came out of W2, scholars didn't just want to toss a requirements analysis over the wall and have techies tell them what they wanted

9:28

A call for humanists to get out there and get involved

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Spectrum of requirements analysis can be a two-way communication

9:28

How things connect back

9:29

Humanists can get involved at different levels, too

9:29

Scholars SHOULD be concerned about low-level design; you'd better know how the stemming is being done

9:29

Bringing out phrase "community design"

9:29

Community design of shared cyberinfrastructure

9:29

John Wolffe-- good point about Atlas biting off more than it can chew

9:30

Knowing what to do in a year or two initial project is important

9:30

The people part of scholarly networking - how to get the community involved in that

9:30

Comments/questions?

9:31

Q: What do we mean by "community"? For me, it means individuals who have time to do this (want to, are paid to, etc. for their own reasons). We don't know WHO actually will do work?

9:32

Worthy: This is important - kind of information that Atlas gathers as metadata; this is hard to have people just do on the side. Notion of the Bamboo resources going into giving people time/resources to be charged with doing that, rather than "just write some documentation when you'er done"

9:32

Q: I think that's where the issue of advocacy becomes rather important; community of Bamboo relates to communities that exist in local areas

9:32

Those communities in local areas need to link design and engineering with IT with researchers

9:33

That's what needs to be done at the local level for successful projects

9:33

Bamboo wants to have a structure that facilitates collaboration in local areas, feeds into it; advocacy: those teams we're talking about are almost normal in the context of the sciences, to the extent that if they're developing a major project, can say "in this case, we want a film editing person working with us, etc" can go to school of art, bring them in

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They have the resources to have a mixed community necessary to achieve objectives

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They'll stretch into the humanities to do that

9:34

We want to reverse that project, with putting humanities at the center

9:34

Will link into community of people locally, but we at Bamboo can show models for how that can work effectively for the Humanities

9:34

And then create kind of resources in long term that will facilitate that

9:34

DAG: These are important, needs to go into part of proposal for how Bamboo can help at local campuses


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